Hotel

I dreamt that I was in Seattle for business. I was staying at a hotel for two nights and for some reason, could not afford it. I had checked in and the hotel person came to my room etc. to show me in. Time passed and it was two days later. I knew I was late on checking out and that they would want to charge me for another night. I went to the room and was going to hurry before they came. It was too late. She came in and with a maid. The maid had blond hair, a messy pony tail and she looked like a frumpy odd older woman. She was looking at me judgingly but almost happy that she had someone to look down upon. The other hotel woman was more business like. She was not being nice, but wasn't rude. I told her I would hurry and lied and said I had left earlier, but that I had just forgot some items. It was stressful. 

Jon Hamm

I dreamt that I worked with Jon Hamm. He wasn't my boss, I don't even think that we were in the same department. He was rushing around and very stressed trying to duplicate some report he needed to hand to a client. I knew that he had other things to complete as well. I told him that I could do it for him so he could finish his other work. It ended up being more work than I expected. Some of the sheets were fabric, one was an actual shirt. I wasn't sure where to get these materials and if the copy machine could handle them... Then I was stressed. It wasn't my project and I felt obligated to get it right for him.

Dress

I dreamt my exboyfriend and I were hanging out. I had my red dress hanging on the wall, I think we were going to do something later. I looked up and he had cut it in half. It was useless. I was so upset, and hurt and ?? Just so confused. Why do something randomly to hurt me?

Wood beak

I dreamt that I was on a farm. I think I lived there? worked there? But it was still new to me. There was going to be a big festival with all of the locals. I walked on the grounds to get to the festival. They had large logs set up against each other vertically to resemble giant trees and then they had large fruits and vegetables hanging on them, so that they looked like broccoli trees or pepper trees and so on. I kept walking until I was at the orchard. They had tents set up with different items in them and farm animals. There were these tiny chicks. They looked like a ball of brown feathers with feet, eyes and a beak. They said that they hadn't had time to put the wood in their beaks to shape them. As if the only way chickens' beaks are curved is due to us making them that way.

statistics

I dreamt that I was at a fair or a concert. We had been there for a while and there were little chotchkies they were giving out. I think I was with some little girls. We were all sitting on a blanket and had made it cozy. I was trying to tie something for a girl with a ribbon. I didn't think it would be long enough so was seeing if I should tie two ribbons together to make it work. A friend of mine stopped by (SK). She showed me something they were giving out... some dog poo bags in different colors. They looked like balloons, but I could see that they had a larger opening. I was looking to see if we had more so that I could give them to her since she had a dog. I heard the music in the background. It was some country duet or something. I wasn't sure why I had decided to go to that concert. It was also soooo long, like 4 hours. I remembered in the dream that I had done something similar and swore I wouldn't go to that long of a concert again. But then I decided.. each moment by moment was actually ok... it was just the idea of the hours and time and and and that didn't seem nice, but there was not real not nice moment to pick out. Then I heard someone say... life isn't a bunch of statistics, it is about enjoying the moment.

airport bangs

I dreamt I was in the airport. I was on my way to my gate and noticed Louise Hay. She looked taller than I expected  and I wanted to say hello, but at the same time I wanted to respect her privacy. I thought.... maybe if I smile really big she might look my way.

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I dreamt that my hair guy gave me bangs. I had just been trying to grow them out and they were at their perfect length. I was sooo not happy with them, but I thought... well they will grow, change is good. I should just enjoy them and the experience for what they are.

Row your boat

I dreamt that I was getting a lot of money. I went to go pick it up and there were piles and piles of it. I had earned it some way, either sold a service, a business, made a good investment or something. What ever it was that I did to do it, it was all light and feel good. It all went smooth and nice like a hand over fur. I saw the one pile of money on the counter and I just wanted to toss it in the air. I felt how fun to just take all of this stuff that usually is so emotionally weight and play with it.

Then I woke up to this song in my head...  Row row row your boat, gently down the stream,
Merrily merrily merrily merrily, life is but a dream...

dog treats

I dreamt that I was on my way to somewhere. I didn't think that I was in Portland anymore, but it looked and felt like Portland. I was on a scooter and was going one way, then had to u-turn. It was all through a pretty tree-filled neighborhood. Then I ran into someone I used to work with (KS). She was busy as usual, doing some event that involved people. She had little dogs with her that I stopped to pet. She held out her hand with a bag in it and said ... here... I put my hand in the bag and was about to put the items in my mouth when I realized they were dog treats.

sneaker slippers

I dreamt that I lived in a skyrise? or an apartment on the top floor of a building. I may have had rooomates, I'm not sure. I think I did because I think there were other's things there and my things were messed with. I looked through a bag. It was a bag that I would take my things back and forth from the swimming pool. It seems I had things in there that I didn't know I owned. It felt like find a small treasure. There were slippers in there that looked like converse sneakers. They were a soft cotton and I'd never seen anything like them. I I thought they were kind of cool. I was going to put them on but I had to go somewhere. I went down the stairs and out into the city on my way... I saw a friend of mine's sister who had moved to Germany years ago. She was there with her husband, kids and her mother. I hadn't seen any of them in years. I said hello to her mother. I was a bit excited to see her but at the same time, wasn't sure how she felt about me. Our friendship had been rocky at the end. She looked at me and I could tell she knew who I was, but it was also like she had lost her memory at the same time.

Then I dreamt that I was in a house. People were in there possibly accusing me of something and/or I didn't do something I was supposed to. My brother started talking saying he was going to cut out this wall near the kitchen and extend the room, blah blah blah and some how that made it all better. I was glad he helped me but at the same time I was thinking... will that make the outside of the house look boring??

split cross

I dreamt that I was at a retreat thing. There were different activities you had to do.... meditation? A post where you went and said things? or maybe gave a message or?? and a dark room ? and finally an end ceremony thing where you cover yourself in a white mud?? I was near the mud, but I hadn't done the rest of the activities, so I had to sign up and come back.. It had to be done at the end

I saw a large cross that split down the middle.. they say when this happens it is good. It was like a rare thing and an omen. Someone said it symbolizes the splitting of the penis which symbolizes manhood or masculinity? Not sure what they meant. I asked if there is a girl version of this (it being a women's retreat) or if it meant something for a woman? is the penis splitting universal?  Then I helped a lady at the post.. well she cut in first and I bumped her shoulder to let her know she took cuts. She noticed what she was doing and said ..oh you go first... I immediately felt better. All I needed was the acknowledgment. I let her go first.

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I dreamt that I was at a place downtown... I was living there or looking for a living space. I think I rented a trailor on the street (which was kind of normal in the dream).  I thought it was a decent location (safe), large enough for me, close to a grocery store, so it was good. Other people were doing similar and/or my place might even be better. I think I went grocery shopping. I felt like a girl in college, when you get your first feeling of independance. It felt fun and freeing. The whole world is your oyster sort of thing. Then I was on a date? It was almost as if I was reliving an old time.. Either watching someone else's story or getting another chance at mine.

There was a guy... a Richie Cunningham type. Very sweet... we were getting along great. He was flirty. In the dream it was as if I was rooting for the girl... but the girl was me...or not me not sure..and she had something open, an application and was filling it out hoping he would see that her info was there and it would spur him to ask for her number. He realize he has to go and then never asked... It felt like they wouldn't meet again.

Then I'm at my mom's.  We are trying to have a nice time. I brought over a movie, a nice happy feel good one. We are watching and things are going good. Then she mentions something... a thing she doesn't need to, that she knows bothers me, that she knows I've asked her several times not to, that she does on purpose to bother me.  I flip out. I take the movie out of the dvd player, put it in the case, walk to the fridge (was I living there?), started packing up my food... all of it that is mine. She is upset that I'm leaving and I just don't care anymore. I pack up some cottage cheese, but the cats seem to want it, so I leave it for them. I pack up tuna cans, which she seemed to have hidden in the back. She picks up lemons that I had... she looks at them as if they are bad and put them in the fridge. I look at them.. I said there is nothing wrong with them. Why would I not want my lemons??? She was trying to take what she might have wanted. There was a box of cream cheese. I toss it thinking... I don't need it anyway.. then thought.. what if i do? and took that too..I was infuriated. I didn't want things to turn out like this, but I also couldn't take it anymore.

work

I dreamt that I was working for my last company where the boss and I didn't click exactly. I knew I was headed out and they had a new girl coming in. I think I was liking that last week of work, knowing that I could detach from everything that was going on and my surroundings... the drama. The VP was being kind of weird, but I knew why. We were kind of each other's outlet at work, to goof around and make jokes and I was about to leave. I was looking for the printer. I think I was being proactive about something I didn't need to be. I saw that they hadn't fixed something that they had no clue was broken. It would make printing a breeze compared to the way they were doing it. I made a few people happy, including the boss. He was smiling and genuinely nice to me. He asked me to stay on a week longer, that the new girl wasn't going to work out. He also wanted to play like this day was my last day, and surprise everyone when I showed up the following week. He was playful, nice... not his usual self. I felt like it was due to the printer. Why hadn't
 I put extra effort in before? Maybe he felt estranged from me and me him just due to my by the bookness, maybe coldness? He wanted to feel cared for. Hmm...  A friend of mine worked there as well, KM who moved away long ago. She was in a good mood too telling me about her life.

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I dreamt that I was downtown needing to get somewhere... from an office to a function? meeting friends? a class?  I was about 20 stories tall though. I could walk over buildings, but with stilts on, so my footing wasn't sooo perfect, but it wasn't unsteady either. I would step carefully on rooftops as not to damage them or poke holes through, and then slide down them if they were slanted. It was kind of fun. I ended up at some science museum type place. I noticed most of the museum was for a child audience. Lots of short kiosks and fun imagery. There were fun areas where you could draw things but with liquids encased in plastic, sands or metals with magnets. I made one and left it and my brother came by and said this one is neat. I had titled it connection. I noticed more friends (although I had never seen any of these faces) and realized we were all there for my brother's wife and her baby. Some class for them or celebration, not sure. They had refrigerator magnets and I spelled out baby and :)  to take a photo to commemorate the moment. I saw a couple of guys and a girl that were bored and made up some excuse to leave. There was another palish fellow there and I thought he was going to do the same, but he wanted to do something to show his support. He asked.. Is there a card I should sign? He seemed a bit nervous and I didn't know of a card.. I saw some large white paper and I said... no, but we need one. Could you make one over there out of crayons? He seemed so happy to be of use and went right to it.

spiders sneaking and hiding

I dreamt that I was supposed to capture different spiders, either by camera, a sketch or actually capture them. I don't like spiders in general. They creep me out. I saw a yellow one, then a red one... I didn't want to touch them, I didn't want to get close enough to get the details. Wasn't a good game for me.

I dreamt that I was helping at an events. It was a invitation only type thing and you needed certain credentials, for example to be a scientist or a doctor. I was excited that I was able to be there, not due to the exclusivity, but I wanted to learn what they were learning at this event. I was at the entry, making sure the right people were let in. Everyone was dress nice, somewhat in a 1950s style of suits and dresses. I needed to get some water and the only place with the best filtered water, was in the gents bathroom. You had to go to the end stall where there was a sink. It was all very nice, although odd. I wore a navy, matte satin fitted dress with pearls. I had forgotten to take off my gypsy-style earrings though. I felt like I was sneaking something or hiding when I went to fetch the water. That part didn't feel good. I was tired of sneaking and hiding. 

late

I dreamt that I was going to the beach with a group of people. It wasn't a pleasure visit, more like we had to do this to survive or get some message somewhere. We had to walk by a friend of mine's house SA. He wasn't so happy we were doing it although he wanted what we wanted and couldn't get it if we didn't go on our little mission. He was yelling out about something that was wrong with the trees. Some boys (his boy and friends of his) had made them a mess. He was acting like it was my responsibility that they had made the mess. I shook my head and shrugged it off. He was unhappy... not my fault.

I dreamt that I was starting a new job. At first I was in the office with two ladies. I felt like I was back in the 80s, old hair styles, clothing, office equipment. It felt easy and outdated. They were talking to me in a mother hen sort of way. They knew that the boss, a creepy older man, was inappropriately flirting and being suggestive. I didn't like it, but I thought... just let me start working and making money.... then we can deal with him. If we do it before I start, I might not have a job.

Then I was in a parking garage ?? or. I was just about to leave, as if it was my first day. I felt I was running late. I kept looking at my phone to check the time but it wouldn't show me. I got in my car to go, and then I saw a friend of mine that had a wheel go out. I was trying to get his attention before he got on the road. I didn't want him to get in an accident. I knew if I stopped to help him, I would be late for my first day, but I had to. He stopped and we looked at the tire. There was no way he could drive it. Then all of the wheels looked like odd coils, like a new kind of tire instead of rubber, although his car was vintage looking. I told him to get in my car and I would give him a ride home. I still wanted to know how late I would be, so I kept checking my phone. I guess I had downloaded some work software on my phone that made it run slow. In the mean time, I needed to move some duffle bags from the front seat. I put them outside and some dog kept going through the bags and taking things out, making me even later. I tried to shoo him away, get my bags, get in the car, get the time... my friend was telling me to call work to tell them I would be late, but I couldn't even get to my phone list. Then it was as if I didn't have to work that day, like I went in, but they didn't expect me, but then I was back in the car with the same scenario of being late. An email popped up on my phone without me pushing anything. It was some video a friend took of early morning downtown.... some guy that had been out the night before and had too good of a time throwing up in a garbage can, then two feet away, another man going through a garbage can for food.

phones

I dreamt I was working for a new company I think? As in they were starting, or having a major overhall. It was a nice office in a high rise. At the moment, they were changing out all of their phones. All cell phones, all multi-line phones etc. for some old phones. When someone called you had to run to find the correct phone and you couldn't even forward the call. You had to find the person and bring them to your phone. 

hairbands.

I was just south of the city. I mean just... as in it was part of the city, but at the end of the high rises. It was grassier there, more parks, and so on. It was kind of a shady area. Some odd folks lived there, cars were broken into more, but safe at the same time. I had walked up the hill to meet some people or work? I guess I had to get somewhere else because I started walking back down. I decided to walk closer to the river than through the town part. It wasn't the smartest idea as there were less people, it was dark, but I wanted the trees and the grass. I saw some odd folks, a man walking near me, I figured I would just talk and walk through.

Then I was at a place of work. I felt I had already worked there and proved myself, but it also felt like my first day. A woman there was acting as my boss. She was a short tough gal. She told me we always had to wear all white (I was wearing a light blue button down). And the hair had to be back in a pony tail, all of it. She was saying how it was an old lady hairdo in a way to have it all slicked to the head, but at the same time a little girl do. I told her I didn't have any hairbands, she was not happy with it. She had many, but she obviously didn't care to share. I walked around some stainless steel shelving and found a collection of bands. They also had a leather strap connected to them with a snap closure. I asked if they were ok and she said yes. Then some bigwig came in. He was in a suit, shiny hair, he was swanning knowing he owned the place and that there was zero threat for him. He was pleased about something and was about to say it. I was thinking he must be pleased with my recent work. I had saved the company money, did a bang up job at a certain event and so on... but no, he was happy that an employee had offered up 35,000 of their own money to buy something for the company.

Then I was in some mall. I was with some friends? We all had to get somewhere, as well as get away. I had run through some hall, up some stairs and was on the roof waiting, hoping they would hurry. We had to leave before ?? happened. 

1111

Dreamt I was living in a home that wasn't mine. A friend SK was cleaning and reorging the house. He had moved the living room area around, which is also where I slept. It was an odd shaped place, kind of like it was in a pod, small living areas, short ceilings. I went to try to get to the fold out bed and couldn't now with the furniture moved. I was planning on moving everything around again. I needed to get to it. I had an idea to move a couple of easy chairs to the window for a sitting area, but then had a flash that some woman, maybe his mother, had done it before and said no one ended up using it, so I didn't.

I was seeing a fella and he was over. He annoyed me, why was I dating him? He had sandy hair, kind of longer than looked good on him. And he was feminine .... my job, not his. He was also wearing a beige colored thing tshirt and a thong. Bleck! Was awful.

I was asking for help in my mind from this situation and I kept hearing and seeing 1111.

growing paper

I dreamt that my dad gave me a jet pack for a gift. We were up in the NE somewhere, Maine?? or?? I decided I was going to fly to NYC. I was in the clouds and couldn't quite see where I was and then I went through them, they were a bit dirty and a bit pretty in parts. I wanted to land at Central Park. I could see it and started to hover down. I was excited to be there and wasn't sure what I would do next. I didn't have much money and I probably needed to head back. As I hovered down, I felt like the motor was getting weak. I realized it wasn't meant to travel that far on such a small tank of fuel. I looked around and felt so lucky that I had landed near two different gas stations. The one looked like they were closing, but I saw that the open sign was still up. The other one was farther away, I think cost a little more and there was something about it I didn't like. I really wanted to use the one next to me. There were a couple of old guys there and I was happy to see them and talk to them. They were tinkerer types and were interested in my jet pack and in helping me out. I had never filled it before and wasn't sure how to. We found that it had a glass tube inside that held the fuel. I thought it was odd that it would be made of something so delicate.

Then I flew back and I'm not sure anyone knew where I went and I wasn't going to tell them. More people showed up for my birthday, my aunt etc. I was given a piece of paper and a few pieces of popcorn already popped. When I clapped my hands, the pop corn would get bigger and the paper would get bigger. I thought it was very cool and what a $ saver as far as the paper went. I could just keep on clapping and have a ton of paper.

Then I was at this school. It felt like it was in Ireland or something, old brick buildings, old trees, older way of doing things. I think there was something specific that I needed to do, I don't remember what it was, but I was walking around with a destination in mind. I saw a guy in the distance doing some grounds work near the gravel pathway. I wasn't sure if he was planting, airrating, or what. But he was going along quite quickly. As I came closer, I saw he had wheels on his shoes. One wheel per shoe about 10" in diameter. He could bounce on them and roll at the same time. I figured you would have to practice to go like he was going without falling. Then there was a larger wheel about 5' tall and he could put his shoes in slots on it and roll with the wheel. I moved on from him and found the path was ending. I climbed up some rocks and to the side of a brick building and held on to some rails to keep going. It seemed like a religious building with statues and stained glass. I came to a point where I could see grass on the otherside of a railing. There was a  shelf of sorts where there was something decorative. I saw that someone had put a porceline figurine there. At first I thought it was a gnome and then I realized it was an angel, with sandy blond hair, blue gown and white wings. I figured it was either some sort of good luck charm or a hide and seek game. I looked again towards the grass to see how to get there and realized it was a farther drop than I had thought and a creek was inbetween. I knew I couldn't make the leap.

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I dreamt I was at a hotel with friends. It was a very fancy hotel in a warm area, not sure if it was domestic or some other country. Some of the people I was with were different ... as in we probably didn't share certain values on authenticity or kindness, but either way I was stuck with them and they were not horrible. We were all going to hang out at the pool and maybe get something to eat, but some of us needed to change, some of us wanted to go to the city first... it was messy a bit. We needed a card to get into the pool, every card from the hotel had your photo on it, so someone else couldn't use it. It was right on the beach and I thought it was odd because people from the beach could come right to the pool with no card, but people from the hotel couldn't go in without a card. I felt like we were trying to sneak people in, otherwise I wouldn't have felt stressed about this card situation. One of our friends worked in the hotel and she was about to walk to the pool. I reminded her she needed to change out of her uniform or they would not let her in.

feeding the dog

I dreamt that I went to my exboyfriend's. I had left some things there that I needed to get and was going to say hello to some of his friends. I showed up and only D was there and maybe someone else that was fun and nice. I looked around and found a fuzzy blanket that was mine and a couple of other items. Franky, his little pug was there and jumped up on my lap and rolled around on my blanket. It was pretty cute and sweet. I saw that he hadn't eaten yet and was whining, so I went to go get his dish and try to find his bag of food w/ the least amount of digging through things possible. I found one bag, but they were his treats. Then I found the other and a lot of the food came out too quickly, so I was trying to quickly clean it up so I could feed him and get out of there before ex came home. Then there he was all of a sudden. I told him what I was doing and asked him where I could put the food so that the other dogs don't get into it. He said... "well... you go down to the corner... take a left...," basically giving me crap, saying to get out of the house. I threw the dog food from the dish over my shoulder and it landed all over him. He laughed. He meant it good naturedly, but it still kind of bugged me. I got the rest of my things without looking back, swung my camera over my shoulder and then was going to walk out through the back kitchen. D was there and he had all of his camera equipment in the oven. I thought.... hmm interesting way to make sure there is no water in your camera. I asked him..."are you dehydrating your camera?"  He said... "No, that's ghetto man..." and smiled. 

neighbors

I dreamt I was on a walking tour with a group of women. I think I worked with some, some I just knew and I think some were relatives or friend of my mom's. I really wasn't wanting to go on this trip, do the usual shops etc. or hang out with these women. I hung back a bit from the last location adn they all kept walking. It started to rain and it felt great. I decided to go back to the place I was staying. It was on the top floor of an old building that butted up completely against another building. My bedroom had a window and at just about the top foot of the window, you could see into the next building's apartment. They windows were only a few inches apart. There was a little boy in there and he was laying on a bed? or window seat. He saw me and was a little shy, so he put a pillow against the window. I decided to get out again, but I'm not remembering where we were. Then I was back in the apartment, this time there were two little kids, a boy and a girl. THe girl was a bit mischeivous, kind of almost in a scary way. She was strong willed and smart. She kept wanting to go in my apartment, borrow my laptop and so on. I kept telling her no, and she kept arguing to use it. I went into the next room and saw the group in the next building over. They were done with their walk and were having drinks and dessert. I figured that was a good excuse to say good bye to the children who were reluctant for me to leave. I said I really had to go and would be back soon. They seemed ok with that idea and pulled themselves back into their room. I immediately went for the window and locked their window (both of our windows could only be locked from the outside). I could see the girl and that she was upset.

I went to the bar where the group was. They seemed a bit tired and were separted into two booths. Only two women were at the one booth. I went to the larger group and asked them all to scoot as we could all fit in one booth. They did. I ordered to add to the desserts and then ordered a special cake for a gal that was having her birthday. The bill was $150 just for those two items. Ugh. The gal that sat next to me had a bunch of trinkets behind her. She said they were awards for all of the walk they did that day, one being a 1000 mile walk. One of the desserts being passed around was called Cherries Jubilee, but it wasn't ice cream, more of a cheese cake, but it had a mild blue cheese in it and corn nuts and rosemary. Kind of strange, but in the dream it was really good.

I was feeling blocked in at the booth and was hoping we would leave soon. Then I heard a bird.. it kept cawing. It was the restaurant bird and you were to give it a tip or feed it. This was how the waitstaff earned extra tips. I wanted to shut it up as it wouldn't stop. (there was actually a crow outside my window this morning). 

staying places

I dreamt I was in a hospital. At first I was there to visit someone I think. They were occuppied, so I went to get my hair colored red (although the last thing I would do). They showed me how it turned out and I said "it is perfect! the exact color I wanted," which was an auburn color of red although slightly brighter. I went to go see my friend and was at the elevators. There was something about them... like it was an escape? a place to hide? a place to get to the next place, so in a way exciting? a way to be alone?  I'm not sure. The building was very modern and almost set up more like a high-rise business office type building than a hospital. Lots of windows, high ceilings and plants. I went through one area that was in the middle of the building. It was all open and I think it was a gift shop of sorts, but also had some desks.

I went to the room where I was supposed to see my friend. It was full of people and felt kind of nice. Then I left to go find my room. I guess I was staying there too. My room turned out to be one bed in a large room of beds. Kind of like what you see in the old movies. I put out my own downy comforter and pillow. I was wondering if that was a good idea. Would they take it thinking it was theirs? But I decided to leave it.

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Then I dreamt I was coming up to a big house. Was it mine? My aunt's? I was going to stay there for a bit regardless. I think it was my aunt's because there was a note to pay the help for cleaning. It was a pile of rupees and there were a family of Indian people I was paying. They were waiting there for the money and graciously accepted payment until they felt it wasn't enough. I looked around for some dollars, just a few, and handed it to them. They seemed happy enough and left. Then I went into the garage. My cousin (TC) was there and my brother. There were a bunch of items we had to go through to set up for a garage sale. I saw an old turntable and wanted it. My cousin said just to take it. Then I saw more of them and one that had five stacked on top of each other. It was supposed to be something luxurious for back in the day, kind of like a 5 cd disc changer. 

life

I dreamt I was at my exboyfriend's house (BW) and he wasn't there. I wasn't sure if he moved or not. Then I went into his roommate's room. I felt a little like it looked like I was snooping, but I wasn't. His room was all orderly, which is uncommon, then I remembered his girlfriend moved in with him. I saw a plaid wool dress coat hanging that might have been her's as well.Then a reggae looking guy came in and I realized it was his room. I went upstairs and it was a huge attic, really well done, and it was to be my room. It was full of things and a little dusty, but otherwise very nice, kind of a haven. I wanted to lock myself up there, downstairs was too complicated, messy and so on.